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Post by Chev on Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:24 am

I want to get an idea of what you guys are getting with your badges...Gear is all about time, and using your badges wisely is essential to your gear, and in result our performance in raids.
http://monkey.niceboard.com/general-discussion-f1/wowhead-stat-weights-t189.htm

Using the above thread, wowhead stat weights, you can pull up your class and spec and look up the badge rewards. Compare your current item from your armory
http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Dethecus&n=The+Order+of+New+Bethla&p=1

and the badge reward upgrades...subtract the two scores and divide by the # of badges it costs. You now can create a list of stat/badge and know where your badges should go next. It you don't like the template, you should use it as a start, and enter your own custom values.

I would only consider possible drops if the stat/badge ratios are very close. Drops aren't guaranteed, it could take months before you see a particular drop.

Alright, let's see those lists! cherry

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sad truth

Post by Ezmac on Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:34 pm

...is that there are no good shoulder badge rewards and arena/pvp shoulders require massive ratings (Qaadr and I will get there though...some day) BUT the Kara shoulders are the tits for raiding and they ALREADY dropped!!!! on the one day I didn't raid. It's like the grinch stole my christmas, yo.
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Re: Badge Lists

Post by Ianil on Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:56 pm

Let's see... this is what I should be spending my badges on if I got the formula right. I'm not sure that I did though, because it's saying I need to break the Spellfire set before replacing my blues and healing boots?

Runed Spell-cuffs - 35 badges (7.82)
Enslaved Doomguard Soulgrips - 75 badges (6.66)
Cloak of Arcane Alacrity - 70 badges (2.66)
Carved Witch Doctor's Stick - 35 badges (0.127)
Boots of Incantations - 75 badges (0.114)
Fetish of the Primal Gods - 35 badges (0.113)
Corrupted Soulcloth Pantaloons - 100 badges (0.092)
Tormented Demonsoul Robes - 100 badges (0.018)
Voodoo-woven Belt - 60 badges (I didn't do up the score on this, because it's only worth upgrading whenever I break Spellfire set)

There is no helm or shoulder badge reward for me, so my best bet there is either a drop or tailoring recipe drop. It looks like the best neck piece will be found via PvP grinding.
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Re: Badge Lists

Post by Chev on Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:07 pm

Well the scores dont include the set bonuses...the only way to include em is to plugin the numbers manually. You can show the details of the values used and add on the set bonus value.
You should consider raid buffs that buff your Int such as Improved Mark of the Wild and Arcane Intellect.
This site might help, same thing but it doesnt standardize the values
www.lootrank.com

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Post by Ianil on Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:07 pm

Ugh, really didn't make it any less easier. So, I'll go with what I have right now and the WoWhead stats and create a list that way. The last thing I need to replace is the Spellfire set. That's definitely a keeper until I start hitting T5 gear, or we get into Lich King. No helm and shoulders for badge gear and the neck is PvP. So based off of what's left and the distance the upgrade is from the original item in the WoWHead list that leaves in order of importance...

Corrupted Soulcloth Pantaloons - 100 badges
Boots of Incantations - 75 badges
Cloak of Arcane Alacrity - 70 badges
Fetish of the Primal Gods - 35 badges
Runed Spell-cuffs - 35 badges
Carved Witch Doctor's Stick - 35 badges

That looks better and gets rid of most of my blues except for my one-hand, helm and shoulders. *hopes for a T4 helm token drop from Prince*
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Useful for PvE but...

Post by Grazny on Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:15 pm

...it appears that Merciless+ is often superior to any of the badge drops. At least for resto druids, anyway.

For example, the badge reward http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33972 is very poor in comparison to the arena reward http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33691.

Sometimes this is not the case, like when the badge chest is slightly better than the pvp chest (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33694 vs. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34900). However, I have yet to find an armor badge reward that is drastically superior to the Vengeful/Brutal or Vindicator/Guardian PvP sets.

Thus, pvp vs badge comparisons made by the website fail to take into account honor/arena point management planning. For instance, if a badge reward hand or off hand is only slightly better than what I'm already wearing, and I know I'll be upgrading to the Brutals for those two pieces eventually, I would only spend hard-earned badges on those slots afer I had upgraded everything else, regardless of how highly-ranked they are. This is especially true in this case considering these slots are the only two those of us that suck at arena (<1800 rating) can spend our arena points on after we have S3 gear. Better to spend badges on something that can't be pvp-upgraded.

I'm spending 60 badges tonight on Avena's Touch (ring) because it appears to be the best healing ring in the game according to this website, so I figure I can't go wrong. Later, after I have maximixed the efficiency of my pvp point spending, I will likely make more use of this website to help build a pve-specific set, i.e. to find out which badge rewards are in fact superior to the pvp rewards I already have.
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Re: Badge Lists

Post by Chev on Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:37 am

Not all slots have badge gear that is useful for your spec...the headpiece you linked is a moonkin piece!
I didn't wanna assume that ppl were pvping but yes you bring up a good point. Yes alot of the arena gear is comparable to badge rewards, although most of the guardian and S4 require good arena ratings from 1550-1700 to be able to aquire. The shoulders are 2k-2.2k and the weapons at least 1700-1850 (guessestimates)
here's what I see badge wise for u graz...

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=2.4&filter=ub=11;preset=11.pve.resto;gm=3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34896 Gavel of Naaru Blessings (inbetween S3 and S4) 150 badges

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.-5&filter=ub=11;preset=11.pve.resto;gm=3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29274 Tears of Heaven 25 badges (roughly equivalent to Shade drop, better than S4)

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=sl=5;ub=11;preset=11.pve.resto;gm=3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34900 Shroud of Nature's Harmony (inbetween S3 and S4) 100 badges

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=sl=10;ub=11;preset=11.pve.resto;gm=3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34902 Oakleaf Spun-Handguards (inbetween S3 and S4) 60 badges

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=sl=9;ub=11;preset=11.pve.resto;gm=3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33557 Gargon's bracers of peaceful slumber (inbetween vind. and guardian) 35 badges

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=sl=3;ub=11;preset=11.pve.resto;gm=3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33287 Gnarled Ironwood Pauldrons (inbetween S3 and S4) 60 badges

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=sl=7;ub=11;preset=11.pve.resto;gm=3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33552 Pants of Splendid Recovery (inbetween S3 and S4) 100 badges

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Re: Badge Lists

Post by Grazny on Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:19 pm

Awww jeez, Chev. Ya didn't have to go to all that trouble researching that stuff. That's my responsibility.

I certainly appreciate it though, and will definitely take your suggestions into account. I have 65 badges left over from buying Aveena's Touch and will use the information you provided to help decide whether to spend them or save up for the 150 badge healing mace. Combined with the S4 off hand, my +heals would go up by almost 200.

Thanks again.

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Re: Badge Lists

Post by Chev on Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:35 pm

np, was killing time before my interview Razz

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Having Issues (Go Figure)

Post by Dendroydia on Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:38 pm

I have over a hundred badges burning a hole in my pantaloons and am really at a loss as to what to spend it on. Need some guidance. Imput would be appreciated. Every piece that I look up on wowarmory (b/c i find that wowhead sight a pain in the ass) basically says I need raids that we aren't doing for upgrades....

Can any of u take a look at my gear and give me ur opinions plz? I am not asking u to do my work - believe me I have been researching this....but here are my issues:

1) I have 4 of the gladiator set which give me the chance when casting my wrath to cut my starfire (my nuc) cast time in half and if I crit on this it is between 4200-5500 damage....to me worthwhile to keep the set. I have to get the vengeful chest piece next and that will give me a little leeway as the set bonus is for 4 pieces. My boots and basically all vindicator gear can only be improved by guardian gear (or those big ol' raids again) but I don't qualify for most of the pvp ratings.....

2) My trinkets (Sorcerer's Alchemist Stone, Shiffar's Nexus-Horn, and Scryer's Blood Gem) are listed as some of the best in the game for boomie.

3)Some things can be upgraded by more battlegrounding which I am certainly not opposed to (vindicator ring) but I would still have the burning sensation in my pocket with these damn badges.

Thanks in advance for anyone who has the time to help this boomkin out...maybe more intellect would allow me to pick out my own gear? Hmmmmm.....
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Re: Badge Lists

Post by Chev on Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:12 pm

Here's a filter that may help
http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=cr=118:123;crs=29434:1;crv=0:0

from the balance thread:
Spell Rotations

* IS, SF3
The most Mana-efficient full rank rotation. For further mana savings, downranking to Starfire rank 8 gives the best efficiency.
* IS MF, SF3
Higher Damage, Higher mana usage.
* MF, SF4+ and variations
Used with the 2pc t6 bonus and/or high levels of spell haste.
* MF, Wrath*8 and MF,IS,Wrath*7
High DPS, high mana consumption. Best for brief encounters, those with pushback [1], and when CoS is unavailable and not constrained by mana.
* Mash Starfire
Another spell "rotation" acceptable at high levels of haste if debuff slots are scarce. High DPS, reasonably high mana consumption.

I only see Wrath should be used for trash, so I don't think that the set bonus should be much of a concern

I can do the whole list thing that I did with Graz if u want me too tomorrow.

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Post by Dendroydia on Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:33 pm

Thx Chev - will look into this tomorrow when my head is not spinning so much from all the info I have been reading Smile
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Found this forum most useful for me

Post by Dendroydia on Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:53 am

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215646573&sid=1

This was a super useful sight for me....Laid out raiding, pvp, and 5-mans from every aspect: gems, enchants, gear, talent trees, spell rotations, stat importance. Feel like I have a bit better understanding.....and I spent some of my badges on new pve bracers Smile

Now I just need to put together a list of what is most important to upgrade first but that will have to wait until later today.....

Thanks again Chev for your help.
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